At a 100 yard zero, the bullet should be about 7 inches low at 200 yards. Don’t forget the ruler! We offer pistol fundamental targets and zero targets for those running red dot optics on their pistols. Drawbacks to a 25 yard zero. Job Done For the 129g SST in the same rifle 1 inch high gives me apx 170 yard zero and apx 1 -1.5 inches low at 200 yards. Your bullet will be zero ar 25 yrds, then 2.7" high at 100 yards, 2.95" high at 150 yards, and 1.88" high at 200 yards, coming through zero once again at 245 yards. ARMA DYNAMICS PISTOL TARGETS . Aim at the waist and you will hit the chest. We also provide adjusted range versions for those who only have access to a short range (25 yards), but want a 50/200 or 100 yard zero. Weill, it’s about 5 feet or 60 inches. 200 yard zero. 25 yard zero. Once you have set your targets up, begin shots at the paper target. Great for “Minute of Man”/ silhouette shooting. I'd say you aren't getting close to the factory stated velocity. I will use the chart data showing the rise of the bullet from 25 to 100 yards. – This is a common myth around the internet. THE 200-YARD ZERO Sighting in your high-power deer rifle at 100 yards is a waste of a perfectly good flat trajectory. I can zero at 50 yards and know I can still land a shot at 200 yards. At 200 yards there is perhaps 4 to 5 inches of bullet drop. Dec 16, 2010 #4. If I dont have access to a 36 yard target can I achieve a 300 yard zero at 25 yds by shooting .2 inches high at 25 yds? What were the results? A typical question might be how much does a .308 bullet drop at the 500 yard distance. Obviously I then shoot 50 and 200 yards to see where impacts are just so I know. When I get the chance, my 7mm RemMag will get a 200 yard zero just in case I get the opportunity to head out west. For those that have attended the courses now know that when it comes to your go-to 5.56 caliber carbine rifle that you would pick because it is best suited for all possible scenarios, the 36 yard zero seems to be the perfect fit. The 36 Yard Zero Target. 25 Yard Zero – I don’t care at all for sighting in at 25 yards. A: I think a good zero to have for a .17 HMR is exactly 100 yards. His zero could be as far as 250. Many factors will influence your own results. Now you have a 50/200 zero which is much more useful. That is actually not correct. Its also apx 3 - 4 inches low at 300 yards which is bang on my next mark down on my Bushnell Elite reticle. Thus said my last carbine class. Scenario #2: With a different ammo --- Federal 150 Grain Nosler Partition, coming out of the muzzle at 2840 fps, then the following: jhjimbo ... use a big paper target background like a news paper to identify bullet impact point at 25 yards. This was always an issue during my time in the military because we always sighted in at 25 meters, and then went and qualified with targets going out to 300 meters. If you zero for 200 yards, your 100 yard holdover is about 1.4". You’ll notice the drop at 200 is slightly different, maybe a tenth of an inch. But in this article, I’m going to tell you why I think you should zero your AR 15 at 50 yards… If you’re running a red dot sight. Now when you go back to Georgia swamps, you might consider re zeroing at 100 yards for making head shots at shorter ranges. Why a 25 yard zero? What if you zero your gun at 250 yard? It is as accurate as the shooter. I had zeros at 25 yards but when we shot at 100yes we were about 9inches high. The first step you will take in zeroing your scope, is to begin with a shorter distance. However no, Sighting in at 25 yards and shooting at 100 yards is going to give you about 2.7 inches of play in your round placement. The trajectory path at 50 yards is 1.2 inches high, at 100 yards the bullet is 2.9 inches high, at 200 yards 2.3 inches high and at 300 yards the bullet only drops 3.8 inches. Now you must do some fancy calculating. You should now be able to finalize your zero on the 100-yard target in just a few shots. Hold over about 3" at 200. Fifty yards is our initial intersection, and 200 yards is our true zero. Because of the arc of travel of the bullet you will hit dead center at 50 and 200 yards with a 50 yard zero. At 300 yards though, it’s perhaps looking more like 12 to 14 inches of bullet drop. Which essentially means you zero at 50 yards and your bullet will hit the same point of aim at 200 yards. That's just due to the terrain in the area. Running the figures as per the factory loads does come out pretty close for a 200 yard zero, 1.1" high at 100 yards but it all depends on your own rifle. That leaves me a 1" holdover at 100 yards and follows mil-dots perfectly out to 500 yards. 100 yards 5.5”, 150 yards 6.5”, 225 yards 4.75” 36 yard zero. VIEW ALL VERSIONS. That can take up some critical time during a match or a hunt. Dec 16, 2010 #4. You now have a 25/300 zero. Roll it out to 25 yards. Which is generally not enough to stop you from hitting the vitals on most big game at 100 yards. I shoot 300 metre competition using 90gr Berger Boat Tails and they are pretty accurate. Then 4.7" low at 300 yards. The perfect starting distance is at around 25 yards. So if I want to zero for 100 yards using a 25 yard zero. It may take a few rounds to adjust your scope to get the … I don't need to worry about barrel harmonics (using the same round so the barrel will vibrate the same). I was aiming at the shoulder as he walked across my right of way. Cons: Harsh hold unders out to 225 yards. The 100-yard zero is just as handy for hold-over points. Now adjust your front sight "down" (as in the round strike) 2 clicks. Then altitude at 5,000 asl, 100 yard zero. You’ve got 100 yards, 25 yards, 200, and each distance seems to have its own benefits and its own group of people who swear by it. With a zero of 100 yards the .223/5.56 round will impact approx 3/4″ low at 50 yards and around 2.25″ low at 200 yards. Then shoot it at 100 yards when you get the first chance. There is only one drawback to having the 17 HMR we have been discussing zeroed at 25 yards. The military 25 yard zero target is designed for iron sights. Also take into account that in nothern WI where I hunt, it would be rare to be presented with a shot over 100 yards. 100 Yard Zero – Not a bad option at all. Anything less than 200 will not effect your shot placement enough to worry about,and even going out to 300 yards is a minor adjustment (6-8 inches depending on bullet ballistics and weight). Pros: This zero can take your 10.5 AR out to 250 yards. Group it nicely into the target until satisfied. 200 meters. I shot a buck at 100 yards last season, and hit about 2.5" above my aiming point, but it put him down, so I didn't care. The popular advice is to sight your .223 AR at 50 yards and you will be zeroed in at 200 yards as well. So give me your full attention now… take some notes if you have to because here we go! Run these numbers, altitude at 0 asl, 100 yard zero. 100 yards is the standard for a reason when dialing. . Largest hold under is 2.75” at 125 yards. Begin to zero at 25 yards. Once you are hitting shots in and around the bullseye with consistency, you should start to move your targets out to longer distances. Bring him down a couple of clicks and turn him loose on anything 225 and in. Got frustrated thought about it that night not sure what to do. I got this number with an online ballistics calculator can anyone else confirm this, thanks in advance for any help. I'd suggest a 100 yard zero if most of your shooting will be 50-150 yards. Joined: Nov 30, 2009 Messages: 2,579 Location: Michigan (Gods country) I don't know why the ammo mfrs put the tables on their boxes. With a 1" low at 25 yards zero, I'm about 1.5-2" high at 80 yards. In the recent carbine courses we have discussed various yard lines to zero your rifles along with the pros and cons of each yard line. If you have an AR-15, then you need to zero it. That means having it hit 1.75 to 2.0 inches high at 100 yards. Actually, MRT occurs a little beyond the half-way point – like around 115 for the 200-yard zero, and 170 yards for the 300-yard zero. If he zeros at 0 asl and goes up to 5k, his zero is already off, now dial to 1,000, it’s gonna be off. One of the most popular “Battle sight” zeros for the AR-15 is the 50/200. And with this 50/200 zero when you aim dead […] Pros: It’s a 36/200 zero on a 10.5 AR. Fifty yards, or 36 yards, or 25 … VIEW ALL VERSIONS. It should be about 10" low at 225 yards or approx. 2. With a 50 yard zero, your bullet will only be about 1.57 inches above the line of sight at 100 yards and height maxes out just over 2 inches above around 150 yards. I use my .223 for varmints out to 500 yards so I shoot a 50g VMax at 3450 fps zeroed at 200 yards. There are way too many variables involved. So the 50/200 yard zero allows you to put the dot on the target at any range from CQB to 250 yards (might go out to 300 depending on your barrel and ammo selection) without having to use hold overs or hold unders. Luke 22 19-20. Your trip to the range with your new deer rifle certainly will be more fun by first bore-sighting and confirming impact at 25 yards. Unless you live in the Northeastern big woods or southern swamp country and will never shoot at a deer past 100 yards, you’re far better off zeroing your rifle at 200 yards. Very capable round. That is from 50 to 150 yards you will shoot slightly high. Cons: None. I am assuming that your Mini-Thirty has a 16" barrel and the velocity is somewhere around 2350 ft/sec. Using an MPBR zero, you can also zero at shorter ranges. You may not have access to a 300-yard rifle range, or even a 200-yard rifle range. G Duck Senior Member. Am shooting 100grain pointed remington. When zeroed at 25 yards the round will also be zeroed at 300 yards. Have you shot the .17 HMR at extended ranges, say beyond 200 yards? He's probably quite a bit high at 100 yards with a 50 yard zero, maybe as much as 4". That means that with a 100-yard zero, the bullet will rise ½ inch above line of sight at 50 yards; 1.8 inches above at 100 yards with a 200-yard zero, and 4.7 inches above at 150 yards with a 300-yard zero. 25 = -.7" 50 = - .2" 75 = 0 100 = 0 150 = -0.9" 200 = -3.0" 250 = -6.4" 300 = -11.1" 350 = - 17.4" 400 = - 25.3" rc rcmodel, Nov 12, 2015 #3. ontarget Member. I don't have to worry about line of sight height since my reflex sight won't move. Bore-sight at 25 yards and impact 1-inch low when shooting at 25 yards for most deer rifles. The ballistic compensation works out to provide a 50/200 yard zero. Now, since we're converting from a 100 -yard zero trajectory to a 200-yard zero trajectory, we begin by looking at how much we must adjust to rezero to the new distance. . WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO SIGHT A 300 WEATHERBY MAGNUM FOR HUNTIN FROM ZERO TO 200 YARDS Tags: None. There you have it: advice from the pros. Shoot the 25 yard target until you are approximately 1/2" low at 25 yards which should be dead center at 200 yards. If you sight your rifle so that your bullets hit the bullseye at 100 yards, the bullets will be 0.1 inch high at 50 yards and 2.6 inches low at 150 yards. This is just a deer rifle for here in Michigan. Hey guys, so I am wanting to zero my rifle at 300 yard zero with 55 grainers, this can be achieved by either zeroing at a 300 yard target or a 36 yard target. Using the Frank Proctor method to achieve 50/200 zero on a limited distance range at 10 yards. At 100 yards your will be slightly over 2 inches high. 200 yards equals 2.7 MOA - which is exactly what we will apply in Step Two to all other distances. For my 6.5 x 55 1 inch high gives me bang on zero at 200 yards with my 95g Vmax which I use for foxes. On a side note the reason I zeros at 25 is because that's what we do with our 30.06 and at 100 its pretty much right on. Will sighting at 25 yards give me a 100 yard zero? But if your zero is at 200-yards, 250-yards or 300-yards, and your target is at 725 yards? For most center fire rifles in a hunting role you want to ZERO the rifle at 200 yards. I hit him high-shoulder and he went right down. How high would I be at 100 yards to have a 150 yard zero? Be mindful to keep the optic's dot centered within the optic itself as much as possible when zeroing at this range as most optics are not entirely parallax free at 25 yards. 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